RE: Anti-Israeli group vows to be at Pride Parade


 

Christopher King

[1] | Christopher King

The protesters are not "anti-Israeli"!! so would the REAL reporters out there stop slapping that label on them. It’s pathetic!!

This group is NOT opposed to Israel, a label that has been slapped on them by folks to justify the purely political censorship imposed.

These well meaning folk are opposed to what to what they perceive as an apartheid being perpetrated against the Palestinians similar to what transpired in South Africa 20 + years ago, which is not even comparable to them being purportedly anti-Israel.

Just like the people who protested against Guantanamo Bay are not anti-American because they do not believe in torture, etc…

Having a dissenting view should not be censored.

I’m not part of the group. To be honest, I could care less, but allowing the City of Toronto dictate to Pride Toronto of all agencies what is palatable to the public and what is not flies in the face of everything that Pride Toronto was created for.

Pride Toronto generates how many dollars in comparison to the pittance the City donates? Administration should have just "cancelled" the party, stating the reasons why. and then stood back and watched the international fall-out ensue, until City Councilors ran back to them, begging them to reconsider and vowing never to interfere again.

Reply | May 26, 2010 10:31 AM

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David Topping replied to comment from Christopher

You’re very much right (about the "anti-Israeli" label, at least)—I’ve updated the article and appended a correction above.

Reply | May 26, 2010 11:03 AM

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Matthew Harper

Matthew Harper replied to comment from Christopher

Agreed. The best thing that could happen to the majority of Israelis would be an exit from the settlements and a normalization of their relationship with Palestine. It’s hardly anti-Israel to promote what would be in the best long term interests of all of the parties in the region.

Reply | May 26, 2010 11:44 AM

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Colin replied to comment from Matthew

The best thing that could happen to the majority of Isrealis would be if their neighbours stopped trying to exterminate them just because they’re Jewish.

Reply | May 26, 2010 12:37 PM

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rek replied to comment from Colin

Way to dumb it down, Colin.

Reply | May 26, 2010 12:41 PM

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Colin replied to comment from rek

I don’t think it’s dumbing it down at all. People on the left in Canada conveniently ignore that fact that most of the actions Israel takes are done because they are under constant siege and threat from the states around them.

Whether occupying Gaza or the West Bank actually accomplishes this is another story. But the motivation is to protect Israelis from groups who would like to see them obliterated.

Reply | May 26, 2010 1:04 PM

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rek replied to comment from Colin

Of course you dumbed it down, and now you’re being just as selective about which side of the story you want to tell as you accuse "the left in Canada". You’ve taken an extremely messy issue, which goes back generations and centuries, and reduced it to "because they hate Jews", and turned a willfully blind eye to Israel’s share of the antagonism lobed back and forth over the (real and unrealized) borders of the region.

Reply | May 26, 2010 4:28 PM

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Colin replied to comment from rek

No, I admitted that the Israelis may not be innocent in this debacle. But nobody arguing the Palestinian point of view is ever willing to concede their role.

Of course, if I were not holding back I’d argue that the entire thing is the fault of organized religion. Which is the cause of more death than anything else humans have created.

Reply | May 26, 2010 6:36 PM

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[7] | friend68

Tread carefully here… the issue of Israel vs. Palestine is nearly as contentious as bikes vs. cars.

Reply | May 26, 2010 2:43 PM

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Christopher King

[10] | Christopher King

I’m sorry, but why should we tread carefully.
The last time people stayed silent when a people were being oppressed, 6 million people died in Europe during the Nazi era. During Stalins regime, perhaps 20 million died. In Haiti, countless numbers of political dissenters and their families disappeared overnight, and this type of behaviour is still ongoing all over the world every day!
This has nothing to do per se with the issue of Israel VS Palestine. This has to do with good people standing up when they see injustice, and saying enough is enough!!

Reply | May 27, 2010 9:16 AM

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2 thoughts on “RE: Anti-Israeli group vows to be at Pride Parade

  1. David Topping, Matthew Harper, rek and Chris – congratulation to all of you…, you have all qualified for that unique brand of cognitive dissonance that only a select few groups (such as the one referred to above and groups like Queers for Palestine) are capable of displaying and as such appear to be primary candidates for membership within them. When you join, please don\’t forget to book your one-way ticket to the wold renowned Gaza LGBT center where you will be treated to a complimentary mud bath 6 feet underground.

    • I see, so because someone disagrees with you against censorship that makes them automatically dumb. Much as I love you Allan, it is my opinion that censorship is wrong in any form. Frankly I feel that the Jews have become far too militant against anything that might muddy their perceived perfection in the universe and that this idea that everything they do is automatically right is arrogant beyond belief.

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